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      CommentAuthorwibbler
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2007
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    Dear god, can it be true?!

    BBC: Boris for Mayor?

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      CommentAuthorMelissa
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2007 edited
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    So I heard!

    Will the idea be taken seriously by Boris and Henley?

    Great fun

    • CommentAuthorBob
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    Boris should give the idea serious consideration. London is a world financial centre, together with the South East it dominates the United Kingdom economy. It is city of culture, history, education and government. It is cosmopolitan. It needs a talented charismatic leader capable of nurturing its renewal and growth. Wayne Gretsky, the ice hockey coach encouraged his players "to skate to where the puck is going to be" - we need a similar leader for London. Boris should ask himself will anybody ever offer him such a "huge train set of opportunities" ever again. In theatreland terms - maybe it is time for Prince Hal to give way to Henry V. In my opinion Boris should go for it.
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      CommentAuthordmnyc
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2007 edited
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    Boris for Mayor?

    Well, of course, it would be mind-boggling fun for the rest of us and I’d adore it beyond all reason. But I can understand why people keep turning down the chance to run at it. What an undertaking! Not that Boris wouldn’t give it his all. I’m sure he would but I’m sure it’s not unlike being Mayor of New York — gargantuan in scope and almost impossible to get ones hands around it.

    I’m sure a lot of people agree with Heseltine’s comment in the BBC article that the idea isn’t to be taken seriously but – Boris’s “no, thanks” aside, why not?

    Sure. Boris has his goofier moments but is that bad? He’s more often than not happy to make himself the punch line, appears happy to wade in and get things done that need doing, can admit when he’s wrong, exhibits an ability (not uniformly demonstrated by politicians as a whole) to grasp facts on the fly and finally, “Brand Boris” – as it might be put it in these marketing-centric times – is mighty powerful and has serious commercial potential. Isn’t that something that “Brand London” could use in the run up to 2012.

    I’d vote for him in a heartbeat if I lived in London. Then again, I like mayors with some entertainment value. My own mayor, Bloomberg (or as I like to call him Mayor McLittle or mini-Mayor) routinely brings the funny – often unintentionally but frequently with self-deprecating humor that I assume helps one in such a position.

    Sure, if Boris is happy where he is – by all means, he should stay and be happy. But oh, what a spectator sport it would be. The bike-related legislation alone . . .

    • CommentAuthorStevenL
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    Oh, but imagine the election. Boris takes on Livingstone in 2008, the media frenzy, the diametrically opposed opinions on just about every area of policy, the strong possibility of 'gaffes' on both sides. Ultra-PC Livingstone takes on speak-his-own-mind Boris in the popularity stakes. 'Boris for Mayor' posters, T-shirts, billboards and banners adorning the capital. Opposing armies of young socialists and capitalists canvassing Londoners from every walk of life. The character assasinations, Red-Ken and his Chavez supporting cronies take on 'Bullingdon Boris' in the war for hearts and minds. Kens vision of multi-cultural utopia versus Boris' 'Dream of Rome'. Livingstone's secular surmons take on Boris's charisma, charm and wit.

    Do it for the people Boris, give them the proper election Britain so badly needs. Show us what politics can be like.
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    Agreed Bob, dmnyc and StevenL.

    It would indeed be a fantastic election, Boris would make a great mayor, and he should strongly consider it. Considering the contempt with which Blair has held Parliament being an MP is about as pointless an occupation as you could have: you have more power to change things as a local councilor. But Mayor of London is entirely different, and would give Boris a chance to really make a difference. We also need a libertarian Mayor for all our sakes, and it is especially important to have someone who can oppose any Labour government when it comes to tax increases – London has a chance now to become the capital of the world, Boris’ very own modern Rome. It is on the brink of overtaking New York as the world’s financial hub, it is the center of the west (both politically and geographically poised between America and Europe), the commonwealth and London’s multicultural populace give us stronger ties than any other European nation to developing nations, especially India.

    Boris, it really is a land of opportunities, you would love it and we need you!

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      CommentAuthortayles_
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2007
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    Frankly, I’d vote for anyone who can unseat that nasty little man from the mayor’s office (not that I’d get a vote, living in Surrey). Red Ken seems to hang in there by playing the rebel politician card, rather than for anything he stands for. If people actually took notice of what he stands for (that he supports the most vile individuals on the basis of their shared hatred of wealth and power) they’d realise he does not represent the interests of what is supposedly the world’s greatest capital city. I can think of no better person for the job than Boris, although I understand that his priority must be his constituency.

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    It will save having to pull Steve Norris out of the deep freeze for another go!

    What a real choice it would be for Londoners.
    • CommentAuthorStevenL
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2007
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    Yes, the constituency thing is a sticking point. They are nice folk in Henley though, I'm sure that they wouldn't want to hold a talented youngish man back in his career.
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      CommentAuthoridlex
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2007
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    Boris for mayor of London? Doesn’t work for me, somehow. Can’t put my finger on why, though.

    • CommentAuthorStevenL
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2007
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    Too good to be true?
    • CommentAuthorStevenL
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2007
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    'Red Ken seems to hang in there by playing the rebel politician card, rather than for anything he stands for.' (Tayles_)

    Not too sure about that. Ken spoke on stage to the anti-war demo in Hyde Park before Iraq, speaks out against Israel, speaks out in favour of multi-culturalism and other issues that attract many London voters. He sorted out the buses (by taxing people a lot and buying more). A lot of Londoners like his stance on a lot of issues. London is much different that the rest of the UK in terms of whaty is socially acceptable and especially political correctness, Ken's regime would be a tough nut to crack, but I reckon Boris could find a way to do it. Someone had a go at me once for asking for a 'black coffee' when I was there (although this was a one off).

    He will mop up the partisan labour vote, and the anti-labour lefty vote in one fell swoop unless he faces serious challenge.
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      CommentAuthorJack Target
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2007 edited
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    He sorted out the buses – Steven

    I beg your pardon… He sorted out the busses? He removed our lovely routemasters (which admittedly needed removing) and filled our streets with busses that take up twice the space, are an eyesore, destroy cyclists while turning corners and catch fire.

    A lot of Londoners like his stance on a lot of issues.

    You’re right. Even a lot of anti-Labour people like what he’s done and support him. There are indeed many things which I support Red Ken on, and I think that all things considered he’s proven himself to be a reasonably competent mayor. A bit like Tony Blair, I disagree with much of what he’s done but I could imagine it being much worse. I would still much prefer Boris though.

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      CommentAuthorMelissa
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2007
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    I have heard that there is a rule that prevents Ken L standing again but that he trying to find a way round that.

    Without Ken it would probably be a quite a clear run but it could be political suicide against him….

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      CommentAuthortayles_
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    Perhaps you’re right, Steven, but what sort of people think that Ken is great for championing a South American lunatic like Chavez? I suppose it’s that old thing of uniting against a common enemy. The Guardian-reading set and the disgruntled poor probably share a common grudge against Bush, America, capitalism etc. What those issues have to do with London, though, is anyone’s guess.

    Apart from abolishing the Routemasters in favour of those stupid bendy buses, he’s managed to demonise every small convenience and pleasure that Londoners enjoy. I suppose that doesn’t make him as anti-Labour as he thinks.

    Although I’d love the idea of Boris as mayor, I’m not sure how much he’d relish the challenge. Those of us who get London local news can attest to the fact that the job will probably entail endless battles against loony Left councils trying to turn the capital into a no-go area for the middle-classes.

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    The London council map is rather more pleasant these days, very different to the MP map. The LibDems are stronger in London than elsewhere, but the tories are now the dominant party, and have a majority in nearly half the councils. Many of the rest have no majority party, in which it is often a tory-libdem coalition. The LibDems are not exactly right wing, but they are middle-class, and often they’re well-educated and intelligent – Cameron’s Tories appeal to them and Boris would appeal to their liberal instincts as mayor. I think he wouldn’t have too rough a time with the councils.

    • CommentAuthorStevenL
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    'Without Ken it would probably be a quite a clear run but it could be political suicide against him' (Melissa)

    What was the final count against that chap no-one had heard of in 2004 again? 55% - 45% or close? Political suicide? Perhaps, you'll only get a biased viewpoint from me, but then I've actually bothered to read what Boris' politics is all about. I thought he was a bit of a clown before I did. Unless someone like Hague took Ken on (which let's face it won't happen, he's needed in national politics) I can't see a better option than Boris (who I would love to see in a higher profile shadow cabinet role, but seems to be deemed something of a risk by people with no sense of humour). What are we, German?

    On Jack Targets note, Lid Dem and Tory councils have won on tax cutting/freezing agenda's. I think Londoners want a Mayor, but don't want to pay for a mayor (if that makes any sense). Don't forget, elsewhere Lib Dems happily form coalitions with Labour.

    'what sort of people think that Ken is great for championing a South American lunatic like Chavez?' (Tayles)

    Lots of young people, I've just spent half an hour arguing in the pub with my mates girlfriends 2 mates that Britain aren't an evil dictatorship and could actually survive the Middle East oil taps being turned off better than most of the Islamic world could. They still seem to think I'm just buying into right-wing propaganda.
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    You are, but that’s for another thread.

    For the record, Gretzky (The Great One, as he is known to all Canuckistanis) is on record as saying that, in fact, he never said that and you’d lose the game if you played that way.

    Politically speaking, there are some serious considerations. What would being Mayor of London do for Boris’ hypothetical career path to PM? I’ve heard it said that it’s a dead-end that way, but then, nobody would have thought “gee, I want to be President someday, so maybe I should run for Governor of Arkansas.” What happens to London Mayors when they retire: do they actually get executed, or are they only career-dead?

    Politically speaking again, Boris is the only one with enough personality to go up against Ken Livingstone. Economically speaking London isn’t hurting at the moment in the big picture, with a GCP comparable to the GNP of the Ukraine or something. People aren’t angry or frightened enough to vote for a bland robot in a good suit. To have any chance of beating the incumbent, you’ve really got to have name recognition and a distinct identity, and Boris has those as a given. I don’t see anyone from any other party giving Livingstone a run for his money.

    Henley is not the first constituency Boris attempted to represent, and so I would assume that he would somehow be able to overcome his doubtless strongly loyal and emotional ties to the place and run for the big office. People always do, you know.

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      CommentAuthorJack Target
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    Mayor of London is a new post, and Ken Livingston is the first and only one so far. As such it’s impossible to say what sort of career path a mayor would have. In the US of course a mayor is running for president!! But those may be rather uncommon circumstances. Personally I would rank Mayor of London on the same level as a US state governor in the respective political systems (they occupy a similar level of media attention, proportionately have similar amounts of power and even have similar roles), who regularly run for President and often succeed – as Dubya did.

    It’s hard to compare them directly because of Britain’s unique political system, which is so very centralised. It would be impossible to be Prime Minister without simultaneously being an MP, that’s just the way things are, and it would require a full-scale constitutional change to change that. But on the other hand, Mayor of London is a much more important role than Member of Parliament or even shadow cabinet minister. In terms of press attention and power it’s on a par with a senior cabinet post. As such, if Boris were to become Mayor I don’t think it would be the end of his political career – but possibly the end of his parliamentary one. I have no idea what he would do afterwards, devolution is a new thing, but I don’t think it out of the question that he should return to Parliament and take a senior post in a Conservative Government, perhaps going on to try for the leadership. Alternatively he would make a very strong candidate for some form of elected upper-house which seems to be where we’re heading. Perhaps becoming some kind of Speaker or Party Leader in the Lords.

    With such widespread changes and no precedent it’s hard to predict – but I don’t think it would be the end.

    • CommentAuthorGillianP
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    Can't work out if this is a great opportunity to have some inclusive vision in London or a disaster for the Tory party that needs an MP with brains and character. As for where this leaves some bright thinking on Higher Ed??
    • CommentAuthorStevenL
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2007
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    Boris for speaker? I like it, I like it a lot.
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      CommentAuthorMelissa
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2007
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    Boris for speaker sounds the ticket!

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      CommentAuthoridlex
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2007 edited
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    Boris for mayor of London? Doesn’t work for me, somehow. Can’t put my finger on why, though. (idlex)

    I think I can put my finger on it a little better now, after reading this letter from David Cameron’s office.

    And the answer is that the Tories will soon be needing yet another new leader. Newly windmill-powered, bike-riding, non-smoking, glacier-friendly Dave Cameron simply isn’t a Conservative. Although he would probably make an excellent leader of the Green Party. Having yet another leader shouldn’t be too dispiriting a prospect – the Tories have had about 9 of them over the past few years.

    It all looked good for a while. Fresh young face, passion, conviction, wife, kids, bicycles, etc. But this charmer is selling environmental snake oil. I mean, look at the Tory logo! Worse, he’s trying to tell conservatives how they should think, rather than vice versa. It’s bad news. It’s like the Pope telling Catholics they should study Luther or Calvin, and stop saying Hail Marys.

    Sorry, but he’s going to have to go. What’s needed is a sunny non-conformist, to breathe a bit of rebellion into this sad island. And this is why I think that Boris should stay away from the dead-end job of London mayor. If he can wait a year or two, he can have a much better job than that.

    ...But then, having just read a vvv private message in my inbox, I’m not even sure about that. Do Prime Ministers have to be good at managing people? Couldn’t Boris just delegate all authority to competent underlings, and concentrate on the job of being sunnily non-conformist? Or maybe he should just go back to the Spectator…

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      CommentAuthorMelissa
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2007
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    Idlex

    If and when he does stand – you won’t be able to help but vote for him though will you?!

    Otherwise we shall await his next move/challenge

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      CommentAuthoridlex
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    I’d vote for Boris for anything, Melissa.

    I just don’t think Boris should commit himself to anything at all at the moment, because Britain is right now (in my view) immersed in a profound but almost entirely unreported political upheaval, as that most quintessentially English institution – the cheerful, welcoming pub – is in process of being destroyed.

    But then, I imagine that the Dissolution of the Monasteries didn’t get much airplay on Tudor TV. They were probably all hooked on that must-watch gameshow – Would YOU like to marry Henry VIII?

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      CommentAuthorMelissa
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2007 edited
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    haha! lol

    Seriously, though, I fear that what you are saying about the future of pubs rings true. However, this week is national ‘Proud of Pubs Week’ – so get down there and support your local pub!

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      CommentAuthoridlex
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    this week is national ‘Proud of Pubs Week’

    What a coincidence! In July 1539, Thomas Cromwell organised a national ‘Proud of Monasteries Week’ at (as ever) Glastonbury. I think abbot Richard Whiting hosted the event, which was, sadly, the last of its kind.

    And yes, I’ve been supporting my dying local pub today. A couple of nights ago it had 4 staff behind the bar, and 6 customers in front of it. At this rate, it and many others like it will be up for sale at a bargain basement rates – much like the monasteries.

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      CommentAuthorMelissa
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2007
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    NO FOLKS – do not believe the Telegraph – no mayor announcement …..

    Will confirm as and when

    Cheers

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    Ah well, that is a shame.

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    It is. But I like idlex’s idea. Cameron has the position, but he has, in fact, no compelling qualities or policies whatsoever, nor will he ever have. It’s against his nature. He got where he is by being the guy there’s no particular reason to hate. That’s not going to be good enough to lead the Tories to electoral victory.

    But, how quickly can the Tories get rid of him and are the lines of succession carven in stone already? Where does Boris stand?

    They rather prominently overlooked Boris in the Shadow Cabinet reshuffle, so I can’t help but think that at the highest level they put their heads together and agreed to free him up to pursue Mayor of London. Unless they freed him up to play Brutus, but I don’t see that in his nature or his infrastructure at the moment.

    Thanks for the background, Jack. That was very enlightening. It looks like a good place for Boris to continue to grow his national profile, dabble in internationalism when it suits him (avoid it when it doesn’t), and get used to being top dog. Then, when the time comes, he pushes the timeserver in Henley aside and “returns gratefully to his political roots” gets the safe seat, and goes for Leader.

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      CommentAuthorraincoaster
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    Oh, right. I thought that Boris might have a bit of difficulty gaining the actual votes, if not the hearts or minds, of the vast unwashed, so I went ahead and did up some outreach materials. HTML-enabled version on my blog at Support Al Kemal for Mayor of London

    Let me know what you think: StevenL, I think it needs a NuLabSpk makeover, and that’s your department. See how many catchphrases you can put in there.

    Text only version coming up (too big for this comment, apparently).

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    Support Al Kemal for Mayor of London: the People’s Choice!

    Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, MP, (Eton, Oxon) Of That Ilk and Running As Such is just never going to win the hearts and minds, much less the votes, of the fish and chips crowd. You know it, I know it, he hasn’t a bloody clue, which is where competent staff comes in.

    While it appears increasingly likely that BoJo is going to declare his candidacy for Mayor of London (perhaps entranced, as are we all, by visions of blond, fluffy clouds of fur floating over black velvet robes) realistically he will have to work his uppers to the crust if he wants to rule the rank and file. His opponent is Ken Livingstone, a charismatic and iron-willed lefty in the Trudeau F*** You vein known as Red Ken.

    In fairness, it must be said that about the only person in the UK who’s offended more people than Boris is Red Ken himself. So if nothing else, this campaign will be on 24-hour gaffe alert on both sides.

    Still, Boris can’t afford to coast on looks, charm, and the implicit opportunity of below-stairs patronage appointments at the Spectator. Or the Times.

    Boris needs to reach out to Londonistan. He has to become The Man of the People, even if he only encounters those people in the form of a studio audience. We here at the ol’ raincoaster blog have long studied the phenomenon that is Bojo, and we, being somewhat leftist ourself(s?), feel that we can come up with a statement providing a new direction, a new vision, even a new Boris Johnson.

    Behold:

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    Al Kemal* is the People’s Choice for Mayor of London

    From his humble beginnings as a Turko**-American*** immigrant from a broken home, Al’s life has been a series of struggles, a succession of successes. He is an inspiration to the entire Islamic community, and a leader for our globalized times.

    Born in an American Stalinist medical facility**** to foreign parents, he spent his early years nomadically, drifting from country to country***** as his father moved the family in search of lasting employment******. When Al eventually landed in the UK as a child of 11*******he had no more than the proverbial tenner in his pocket*******. An innovative admissions program at a local school allowed young Al the kinds of educational advantages normally only enjoyed by native Britons of elevated standing, despite differences in background and even religion.*********

    Al made the most of those opportunities, securing a place at Balliol, living out the dreams Thomas Hardy had written for him more than a hundred years before.********** While there, he became instrumental in the operation of the British-Arab University Association, and rose through sheer grim slogging to be the first Turko-American member of the Bullingdon Club. Additionally, he was the favoured candidate of the Social Democratic Party, clearly demonstrating his centrist, mainstream leanings at an early age.***********

    Al was active in social outreach programs, making friends among even the criminal classes.************

    Although Al appeared to have overcome his past as the child of a broken home, the pattern reasserted itself. Married too young, Al put his first marriage behind him and eventually settled down with (and subsequently married) a nice Englishwoman from the showbusiness class, with whom he has had four children.*************

    Al’s early forays into politics were humbling, to say the least.*************** Nonetheless, he came back to have a moderately successful career as a television presenter and in local politics, as well as gaining notoriety on the sports field*****************.

    No stranger to disadvantage, exclusion and setbacks, Al Kemal is truly Everyman for Twenty-First Century London. fin
    ———————————————————————————————————————- * Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson’s original family name was Kemal. His family calls him Al.

    ** Kemal is Turkish…his great-grandfather was Ali Kemal, an ill-fated Turkish journalist who became a government official and came to a sticky end. Obviously learning from the past is not a family trait. Ali Kemal was not, obviously, Catholic. Cultural outreach bonus points! *** Boris Al was born in Manhattan. **** In some godforsaken Yankee hospital: they’re all bloody HMOs nowadays. Poor bugger’s lucky he’s still alive. ***** Seriously, are we sure they aren’t Rom? First the UK, then a move to the States, then Belgium (Belgium, for chrissakes…how bloody desperate do you have to be to look for work in Belgium?), then the UK again. Can’t these people settle down and commit to one country? Is that too much to ask? Bloody gypsies! ****** See above. Two footnotes looked more impressive, and nobody reads this s*** anyway. ******* To attend Eton. Must have been an equal-opportunity initiative or scholarship. Good work, Al! ******** I am estimating this, based on the fact that most young Etonians don’t keep cash in their pockets. They keep it in their manservant’s pockets. ********* He’s Catholic. I know, doesn’t look it eh? Yay, more underclass appeal! ********** Thomas Hardy is so going to f***ing kill me for this. *********** No proof exists that he actually ran for the SDP, but on the other hand no proof exists that he didn’t, either. ************ Darius Guppy, who also attempted unsuccessfully to involve Al in criminal activities. That’s our Al, never afraid to do social outreach. ************* Marina Wheeler, a lawyer. Handy, when you’ve got Al’s friends. *************** Wales so totally kicked his ass. **************** YouTube Boris vs Germany
    • CommentAuthorStevenL
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    'Cameron has the position, but he has, in fact, no compelling qualities or policies whatsoever' (raincoaster)

    Where have you been? He's announced lot's of policies, most recently the transferable tax allowance - see Boris' article!

    As for a Nu-Lab make-over, it doesn't need it, it's perfect the way it is, although you insult the readers intellignece too much with all your footnotes and asterisks. However, you can't say 'criminal classes' anymore if you're a politican. I first heard the phrase from some old-boy Oxbridge type and was in fits of giggles, my mates thought it was a hillarious way of referring to the chavs that hang around outside the slot machine arcade in their white tracksuits and knocked-off burberry caps.
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      CommentAuthorraincoaster
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    “Compelling?” I do not think this word means what you think it means.

    Okay, so “criminal classes” is out. Howabout “liberty-challenged citizenry?” The “involuntarily housebound?”

    Had to keep the footnotes in there: half my audience is Yanks. But there is some innuendo in what I didnt’ footnote, but linked. It’s all very hypertextual.

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    No, no, no, where have you been? Now they are the 'disadvantaged and marginalised' who resort to crime because of 'child poverty' and other 'inequalities'. 'Institutional racism' is to blame in many communities, although up here in my neck of the woods where all our crooks are white we just aren't giving them enough of our taxes.
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      CommentAuthorraincoaster
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    Darius Guppy was poor? No way; you’d think he’d at least have those aquarium millions. Certainly he’s off-white. Oh damn, missed the “colour blind outreach” schtick.

    And I’ve been in the desert for a week; before that, the rainforest, as always.

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    Come ON dude. We’re waiting.

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      CommentAuthortayles_
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2007
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    Well, bravo and good luck to him! Let’s hope Boris can usurp this philistine Stalinist mayor and repair the damage he has wrought with his divisive, green-eyed dogma.

    • CommentAuthormarinatha
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2007
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    We need someone like Boris to bring some life back in politics. Ken does have some saving graces, but it is time for a change. I say give Boris a chance. He can't do much harm. and who knows , he might do a lot of good.