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		<title>By: AP</title>
		<link>http://www.boris-johnson.com/2007/07/22/ed-balls-and-nursery-provision/comment-page-1/#comment-18261</link>
		<dc:creator>AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Paul Worthington, and one that not many seem to like. The decline most certainly would appear to coincide with the rise of the MSc in business studies, and these are the very people in decision making positions.

I suppose a degree in Polish is now essential for anyone entering the building trade.

Discounting law and political science, how about some suggestions as to what degrees would be appropriate before letting anyone enter politics?

I&#039;m allergic to politicians, as is the bulk of the population, yet we still seem to get them plastered all over us (Boris is the exception that proves the rule).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Paul Worthington, and one that not many seem to like. The decline most certainly would appear to coincide with the rise of the MSc in business studies, and these are the very people in decision making positions.</p>
<p>I suppose a degree in Polish is now essential for anyone entering the building trade.</p>
<p>Discounting law and political science, how about some suggestions as to what degrees would be appropriate before letting anyone enter politics?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m allergic to politicians, as is the bulk of the population, yet we still seem to get them plastered all over us (Boris is the exception that proves the rule).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Worthington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Worthington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boris,

A problem in NL Britain is highly qualified non-achievement.  I have a suspicion too many graduates at too many phoney universities is part of the problem.  The degrees in watching telly are useless but harmless. But look at the number of managers coming out and the crazy managerialist theories they have had thumped into their inexperienced heads.  They have no abilities of any operative use, but have to be important, and they do the that by getting in the way of people trying to do genuinely important real work.  It is very difficult to find a proper plumber in England, and hardly anything gets made there any more.  Less managerialism would make production much more cost effective.  Lets have a few more technical coleges back and far fewer hot air factories.

Good luck on the way to ken&#039;s den.

Paul
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boris,</p>
<p>A problem in NL Britain is highly qualified non-achievement.  I have a suspicion too many graduates at too many phoney universities is part of the problem.  The degrees in watching telly are useless but harmless. But look at the number of managers coming out and the crazy managerialist theories they have had thumped into their inexperienced heads.  They have no abilities of any operative use, but have to be important, and they do the that by getting in the way of people trying to do genuinely important real work.  It is very difficult to find a proper plumber in England, and hardly anything gets made there any more.  Less managerialism would make production much more cost effective.  Lets have a few more technical coleges back and far fewer hot air factories.</p>
<p>Good luck on the way to ken&#8217;s den.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: PaulD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NuLab&#039;s obsession with degrees and Boris&#039;s &quot;gossly over-regulated society&quot; go hand in hand.

There are already too many graduates washing about with their heads full of half-baked theory gleaned from soft degrees. It is they who make up the swollen ranks of the Interfering Class; it is they who create and fill the thousands of pointless public sector jobs designed to make life awkward for the rest of us and bleed us dry.

None of them wants to get their hands dirty. Meanwhile, people who are trained and ready to tackle the real jobs - the makers and menders - are in such short supply that we have to import them from Eastern Europe.

And the blame for our cockeyed system, in some people&#039;s eyes, lies squarely with Oxford and Cambridge failing to admit enough state school kids!

They might as well blame the weather.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NuLab&#8217;s obsession with degrees and Boris&#8217;s &#8220;gossly over-regulated society&#8221; go hand in hand.</p>
<p>There are already too many graduates washing about with their heads full of half-baked theory gleaned from soft degrees. It is they who make up the swollen ranks of the Interfering Class; it is they who create and fill the thousands of pointless public sector jobs designed to make life awkward for the rest of us and bleed us dry.</p>
<p>None of them wants to get their hands dirty. Meanwhile, people who are trained and ready to tackle the real jobs &#8211; the makers and menders &#8211; are in such short supply that we have to import them from Eastern Europe.</p>
<p>And the blame for our cockeyed system, in some people&#8217;s eyes, lies squarely with Oxford and Cambridge failing to admit enough state school kids!</p>
<p>They might as well blame the weather.</p>
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		<title>By: jaq</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am totally in agreement with Boris and Raincoaster - excellent post Boz.

This insane position taken by the government reminds me of the poor &lt;i&gt;happily married&lt;/i&gt; couple whose children were taken away from them because she wasn&#039;t sophisticated and intelligent enough - the big problem was that the mother had learning difficulties as a child and was so concerned she was doing the utmost as a parent she sought help/advice from the State. After State intervention and closed courts they lost the children although they had never failed as parents or harmed their children.

You don&#039;t need a huge amount of intelligence to love a child, wash them, clean their bottoms and clear up sick, cook simple good food and make sure they&#039;re safe. It doesn&#039;t take a degree, you just need to care. A hug doesn&#039;t require book learning.

What will the establishment be doing next - requiring a degree to procreate? And a degree in what pray?? I understand that you can get degrees in surfing and Ghostbusting nowadays. No, Raincoaster is right - it&#039;s self justification and I think a creeping attitude that says &#039;if you&#039;re not like us then go to hell&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am totally in agreement with Boris and Raincoaster &#8211; excellent post Boz.</p>
<p>This insane position taken by the government reminds me of the poor <i>happily married</i> couple whose children were taken away from them because she wasn&#8217;t sophisticated and intelligent enough &#8211; the big problem was that the mother had learning difficulties as a child and was so concerned she was doing the utmost as a parent she sought help/advice from the State. After State intervention and closed courts they lost the children although they had never failed as parents or harmed their children.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need a huge amount of intelligence to love a child, wash them, clean their bottoms and clear up sick, cook simple good food and make sure they&#8217;re safe. It doesn&#8217;t take a degree, you just need to care. A hug doesn&#8217;t require book learning.</p>
<p>What will the establishment be doing next &#8211; requiring a degree to procreate? And a degree in what pray?? I understand that you can get degrees in surfing and Ghostbusting nowadays. No, Raincoaster is right &#8211; it&#8217;s self justification and I think a creeping attitude that says &#8216;if you&#8217;re not like us then go to hell&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: jg</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also am in complete agreement.  But what baffles me is why the government have set this 50% university rate.  Putting aside that it seems to me a completely arbitrary figure, does it not go against all common sense anyway?  Why encourage people to go on to further education if they are either not interested or capable?

A degree it seems is now the very minimum qualification anyone must have if they are to get anywhere in life.  What a load of nonsense.  It is symptomatic of the failure of GCSEs and A-levels which have ever increasing pass rates.  Next will be degrees and they too will be meaningless. It is already tough for many fresh graduates to get a job simply because the market is awash with people with letters after their name.  By all means we should be all given the opportunity to go to university, but the meddling and the targets of the government is a very different approach to the problem indeed.

The government should spend more time on sorting out the education problems in secondary schools for low income families rather than boosting their headline status for sending everyone to university. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pickinglosers.co.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.pickinglosers.co.uk/&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also am in complete agreement.  But what baffles me is why the government have set this 50% university rate.  Putting aside that it seems to me a completely arbitrary figure, does it not go against all common sense anyway?  Why encourage people to go on to further education if they are either not interested or capable?</p>
<p>A degree it seems is now the very minimum qualification anyone must have if they are to get anywhere in life.  What a load of nonsense.  It is symptomatic of the failure of GCSEs and A-levels which have ever increasing pass rates.  Next will be degrees and they too will be meaningless. It is already tough for many fresh graduates to get a job simply because the market is awash with people with letters after their name.  By all means we should be all given the opportunity to go to university, but the meddling and the targets of the government is a very different approach to the problem indeed.</p>
<p>The government should spend more time on sorting out the education problems in secondary schools for low income families rather than boosting their headline status for sending everyone to university. <a href="http://www.pickinglosers.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pickinglosers.co.uk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: AP</title>
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		<dc:creator>AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m totally in agreement with Boris and Raincoaster, so there seems little point in repeating it. But the trend to minimise risk and to erode teachers&#039; powers goes back more than ten years. If we&#039;re honest, something that is rare these days, it can&#039;t all be laid at the door of NuLab, although they have certainly exacerbated it. Perhaps Ed Spheres and Co have finally reached the baby-boomer&#039; years, hence the sudden concern. There&#039;s quite a few of them I&#039;d like to hit over the head with a brick.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m totally in agreement with Boris and Raincoaster, so there seems little point in repeating it. But the trend to minimise risk and to erode teachers&#8217; powers goes back more than ten years. If we&#8217;re honest, something that is rare these days, it can&#8217;t all be laid at the door of NuLab, although they have certainly exacerbated it. Perhaps Ed Spheres and Co have finally reached the baby-boomer&#8217; years, hence the sudden concern. There&#8217;s quite a few of them I&#8217;d like to hit over the head with a brick.</p>
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		<title>By: raincoaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>raincoaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The insistence on a degree is absolutely a ploy by the uselessly-credentialed to prop up the value of the one commodity they have, letters after their name. While an early childhood education degree is rightfully respected currently, insisting on it as a prerequisite will flood the programs with those who simply want to help out at nursury schools; it is akin to insisting that everyone who works in a library have an MLS.  It will lower the standards of the degree and drive those who are currently credentialed and thus distinctive, back to education if only to maintain their difference.

It&#039;s a cheap trick to prop up the education mafia, and should not be confused with raising standards; quite the opposite.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The insistence on a degree is absolutely a ploy by the uselessly-credentialed to prop up the value of the one commodity they have, letters after their name. While an early childhood education degree is rightfully respected currently, insisting on it as a prerequisite will flood the programs with those who simply want to help out at nursury schools; it is akin to insisting that everyone who works in a library have an MLS.  It will lower the standards of the degree and drive those who are currently credentialed and thus distinctive, back to education if only to maintain their difference.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a cheap trick to prop up the education mafia, and should not be confused with raising standards; quite the opposite.</p>
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