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	<title>Comments on: Marriage</title>
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		<title>By: Abu Deedat</title>
		<link>http://www.boris-johnson.com/2007/07/12/marriage/comment-page-2/#comment-18254</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Deedat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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Mr. Candy-- You raise a good point about the marriageability of modern English women.  I&#039;m not entirely sure if the Polish women in my part of London are very different.  Tattoos and beer drinking play a very visible role in their lifestyle choices.

I do not intend any arrogance towards you when I say that it&#039;s a pity you&#039;re not a Muslim.  Despite the immense moral challenges that all youth inevitably face in the urban British context, there are a lot of religiously-inclined Muslim females that are `making it through&#039; system and who have little or no hang-ups about getting married, having kids, etc.  The supposedly `backwards&#039; and `inferior&#039; ideology of Islam is, so far, still managing to successfully do its part in encouraging and nurturing the settled family life.

Liberal ideologies, on the other hand, have brought western Europe to the crossroads at which we are now at, and people are voicing the need for a counter-movement which will, if not reward married couples, at least remove financial impediments which would deter young couples from marrying and taking responsibility for each other and their children.

I suspect, however, that it will ultimately take more than just material incentives to turn around our present moral predicament; it will rather require a moral and spiritual transformation of the masses on the grassroots level.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Candy&#8211; You raise a good point about the marriageability of modern English women.  I&#8217;m not entirely sure if the Polish women in my part of London are very different.  Tattoos and beer drinking play a very visible role in their lifestyle choices.</p>
<p>I do not intend any arrogance towards you when I say that it&#8217;s a pity you&#8217;re not a Muslim.  Despite the immense moral challenges that all youth inevitably face in the urban British context, there are a lot of religiously-inclined Muslim females that are `making it through&#8217; system and who have little or no hang-ups about getting married, having kids, etc.  The supposedly `backwards&#8217; and `inferior&#8217; ideology of Islam is, so far, still managing to successfully do its part in encouraging and nurturing the settled family life.</p>
<p>Liberal ideologies, on the other hand, have brought western Europe to the crossroads at which we are now at, and people are voicing the need for a counter-movement which will, if not reward married couples, at least remove financial impediments which would deter young couples from marrying and taking responsibility for each other and their children.</p>
<p>I suspect, however, that it will ultimately take more than just material incentives to turn around our present moral predicament; it will rather require a moral and spiritual transformation of the masses on the grassroots level.</p>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
		<link>http://www.boris-johnson.com/2007/07/12/marriage/comment-page-2/#comment-18253</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forum would appear to be back now.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forum would appear to be back now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaq</title>
		<link>http://www.boris-johnson.com/2007/07/12/marriage/comment-page-2/#comment-18252</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well at least we have the blog back which gives me a chance to say to y&#039;all a fond farewell xxx

Boris for PM!
(if you have to be Mayor of London first then so be it :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well at least we have the blog back which gives me a chance to say to y&#8217;all a fond farewell xxx</p>
<p>Boris for PM!<br />
(if you have to be Mayor of London first then so be it <img src='http://www.boris-johnson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: raincoaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>raincoaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfect time for the forum to go down. When you click on a discussion, you get an empty page.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect time for the forum to go down. When you click on a discussion, you get an empty page.</p>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 01:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boris, if the dear old Church of E-verything gets its way, the problem will be a lack of marriagable labradors, spaniels and whippets. Aye and there&#039;s the rub..
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boris, if the dear old Church of E-verything gets its way, the problem will be a lack of marriagable labradors, spaniels and whippets. Aye and there&#8217;s the rub..</p>
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		<title>By: jaq</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://raincoaster.com/2007/07/14/support-al-kemal-for-mayor-of-london-the-peoples-choice/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Raincoasters campaign&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out <a href="http://raincoaster.com/2007/07/14/support-al-kemal-for-mayor-of-london-the-peoples-choice/" rel="nofollow">Raincoasters campaign</a></p>
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		<title>By: Xanthy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xanthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 09:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BORIS you MUST run for Mayor of London.....the race has NEVER been THIS exciting before!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BORIS you MUST run for Mayor of London&#8230;..the race has NEVER been THIS exciting before!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steven_L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven_L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;&lt;i&gt;&#039;In three days work here, they earn sufficient to pay their mortgages, their travel and accommodation costs and to have a good standard of living in the North East.&#039; (Liberty)&lt;&lt;i&gt;

Yeah?  What sort of jobs you got going?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>< <i>&#8216;In three days work here, they earn sufficient to pay their mortgages, their travel and accommodation costs and to have a good standard of living in the North East.&#8217; (Liberty)< <i></p>
<p>Yeah?  What sort of jobs you got going?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven_L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven_L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I think all this psychology is de-humanising.  Who cares if someone is scared stiff of spiders, doesn&#039;t like the French and won&#039;t get on an aeroplane.  We&#039;ve all got our little quirks, none of us are perfect.  All these talking therapies are largely a waste of time in my view.  Unless someone is suffering from an actual illness, that is having a really detrimental effect on them getting on with their lives, we should just live and let live and accept each other with out little quirks and imperfections.

What a boring world it would be if we were all &#039;perfect&#039;.  In any case, who&#039;s idea of &#039;perfect&#039; would we subscribe to?  I&#039;m a bit scared of wasps myself, in one respect it&#039;s a bit silly for a grown man to be afraid of an insect, on the other hand it hurts when the little blighters sting you!  Maybe I should invest a few hundred quid with my local psycho-therapist to cure my fear of wasps?

On second thoughts it&#039;s just a waste of time.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I think all this psychology is de-humanising.  Who cares if someone is scared stiff of spiders, doesn&#8217;t like the French and won&#8217;t get on an aeroplane.  We&#8217;ve all got our little quirks, none of us are perfect.  All these talking therapies are largely a waste of time in my view.  Unless someone is suffering from an actual illness, that is having a really detrimental effect on them getting on with their lives, we should just live and let live and accept each other with out little quirks and imperfections.</p>
<p>What a boring world it would be if we were all &#8216;perfect&#8217;.  In any case, who&#8217;s idea of &#8216;perfect&#8217; would we subscribe to?  I&#8217;m a bit scared of wasps myself, in one respect it&#8217;s a bit silly for a grown man to be afraid of an insect, on the other hand it hurts when the little blighters sting you!  Maybe I should invest a few hundred quid with my local psycho-therapist to cure my fear of wasps?</p>
<p>On second thoughts it&#8217;s just a waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: AP</title>
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		<dc:creator>AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lib: Try replacing the categories with &#039;Id&#039;, &#039;Ego&#039; and &#039;Super-ego&#039; and then subdividing. The group therapy probably comes from Perls work at Esalen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lib: Try replacing the categories with &#8216;Id&#8217;, &#8216;Ego&#8217; and &#8216;Super-ego&#8217; and then subdividing. The group therapy probably comes from Perls work at Esalen.</p>
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