Comments on: Party Conference 2006

By: raincoaster

raincoaster — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:52:21 +0000

How the hell did you do that???

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By: topicstarter

topicstarter — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 03:04:59 +0000

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By: jaq

jaq — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:35:58 +0000

Boris on ‘This Week’ can be found here.

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By: newmania

newmania — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:57:30 +0000

No Kdapt- I have not missed the point. I have understood the point and disagreed. If you read and understood my contribution you would that find we are not so very far apart. After a quick demonstration of the absurdity of anarchy as a working theory for life I move on. I have claimed that anarchic/order is only achievable poetically or mystically. After a hasty and inglorious retreat you give it even less credit than I do.

KDAPT (the wild ) SAYS
“…just because something is unworkable or impractical, it doesn’t make it a bad as a ‘concept’………………… By analogy, it would be nice to create cheap electrical generators which just run on water or air. Unfortunately, this concept doesn’t work at a practical level; …..

Well yes ,it would be nice if every time I bored someone to death a five pound note appeared in my pocket . It would be nice if Scarleet Johnassen spying me from her Limousine asked if I would like to run my ….and … with a … clinging …relief (ed .. not acceptable ). Sadly magic is only for children’s a birthdays and so is the “conceit” of anarchy .
I have likened anarchy to religion and admitted the depth of the idea in these terms( see William Blake). You now believe it is a childlike magical “supposing”. Obviously I am the true believer in anarchy.

I suspect, in our real lives you would find this very much born out. I wonder of the two of us who has had the most brushes with authority of one kind or another?I certainly hope you have not got into more trouble than I have.

Be good .

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By: Kdapt speaker to Tories

Kdapt speaker to Tories — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 07:29:19 +0000

Then we must agree to differ on this point.

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By: idlex

idlex — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 05:48:39 +0000

What we think is all that matters

No.

Not at all.

We’re simply trying to follow the plot of unfolding events, like sorts of bad detctives – like Colombo.

What we think doesn’t matter one single perfect damn. We are always mistaken in what we think: We don’t no nuthin about anything.

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By: Kdapt speaker to Tories

Kdapt speaker to Tories — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 05:41:51 +0000

“the notion that there is no such thing as truth” (idlex)

Very interesting quote. Perception rather than veracity is undoubtedly pre-eminent in the 21st century.

I find the term ‘powerful’ (as in “whoever is the most powerful”) ambiguous though. There are many ways to interpret and/or measure power per se; I would have said ‘influential’ rather.

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By: idlex

idlex — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 05:34:17 +0000

I really like Digby.

He’s an ex-smoker who can tolerate smokers.

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By: Kdapt speaker to Tories

Kdapt speaker to Tories — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 05:32:54 +0000

“This supposes that it’s what we think that really matters” (idlex)

What we think is all that matters. When enough people think the same way humans engender revolutions, war or mathematics. When they think chaotically things stay pretty much the same.

It’s hardly a shaky edifice or a thin premise, it’s the underlying principle of society. i.e. that the dominant will of a large enough national subgroup will influence the direction of any socio-political system.

If everyone was honest and fair we wouldn’t need a government; they aren’t, so we do.

Is that a simple enough concept to digest?

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By: idlex

idlex — Wed, 11 Oct 2006 05:31:16 +0000

In this respect, I’d like to record The Thoughts Of Lynn Cheney:

CHENEY: That was really the underlying topic of my last book, Telling the Truth. It’s postmodernism, the notion that there is no such thing as truth. There’s only your version of events and my version and Charles’ version and Harry’s version, and the one that prevails will be that of whoever is the most powerful. This seems to fly in the face of the way scholarship has proceeded for hundreds, if not thousands, of years.

I think the link is on Digby somwhere.

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