Comments on: Dress in Educational Establishments

By: Steven L

Steven L — Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:34:45 +0000

‘It is interesting to observe that there is not a single blog or thread that references the source that requires the dress code advocated by Shamina Begum.’
(Bashir Ahmed)

Ahem! I put a link up for the Koran last week!

I apologise for not reading it from cover to cover and finding all the correct references for everyone, but you guys all seem to have too much time on your hands anyway judging at the amount of time you all spend on here.

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By: raincoaster

raincoaster — Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:31:16 +0000

I’m glad my posts entertain you. I hope that they may perhaps educate as well. For the record:

I have never been to Saudi Arabia

I have been to Indonesia, the US, Mindanao in the Phillippines, France, and Canada, so I don’t have quite the constrained view of Islam of which you accuse me. One of my dear friends spent quite some time as a political prisoner in Pakistan over this and other, related issues.

I know we all look alike, but do try to treat us like individuals.

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By: Bashir Ahmad

Bashir Ahmad — Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:17:55 +0000

Raincoaster; none of your comments annoy me; entertain perhaps but not annoy. There is a great deal of common ground. Have a nice day.

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By: raincoaster

raincoaster — Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:46:59 +0000

Bashir, it’s obvious you aren’t reading my posts. Read all of the words in them, not just the ones that annoy you.

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By: Bashir Ahmad

Bashir Ahmad — Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:03:29 +0000

Raincoaster; Is it really that difficult to believe that there are many muslims, in fact most muslims; who do not fall into the defination of a muslim as given by “Fox TV”. Presumably; during your time in Saudi Arabia you must have learned a great deal about Islam in the isolated expatriate ghettto colonies where reinforcing prejudices and preconceptions over several martinis and beers has been a popular pastime; not dissimiliar to the ghettos in Europe or America where migrant workers seek refuge in a alien environment. The only difference being one of magnitude in monetary gain; otherwise the level of ignorance about each others cultures remains the same. “A great deal ” is gained by many parties by encouraging distrust and divisions. The Saudi version of Islam is understandably followed in Saudi Arabia but not elsewhere unless there is some coersion with some petrodollars. Hollywood’s popular self-mocking portrayal of infidels has a great deal to answer in this game of misinformation.

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By: miran

miran — Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:55:12 +0000

Well i am at last impressed with some sensible commentry on this issue. I really dispair of modern “britain” that this case got as far as it did in the first place.

well done boris for saying what needs to be said on this.

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By: raincoaster

raincoaster — Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:52:08 +0000

Well the list of things Dubya hasn’t thought about is a long one indeed. Perhaps I’m prejudiced (moi?) but it seemed to me that on 9/11 he was struggling with reading My Pet Goat.

And yes, it’s all just spin. Bush is a social Christian; he likes the connections church gives him, and he likes the Calvinist doctrine of course, since it implies he’s so virtuous. But a man who has a hard time with My Pet Goat is not going to succeed at reaching an enlightened interpretation of Revelations, for instance.

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By: idlex

idlex — Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:38:47 +0000

idlex, do you really think this has anything to do with Christianity? To me it seems obvious that the invasion of Iraq is simply oil-based. (raincoaster)

I agree it’s essentially all about oil. But I think that as part of selling it to the US right, they’ve chosen to tap into apocalyptic Christian fundamentalist ‘End Time’ thinking (if ‘thinking’ be the right term for it) to shore up support for the war of Good against Evil Turrists. And it’s quite clear that it works.

Incidentally, in this respect, Bush was recently asked if he thought we were living in these ‘End Times’, to which he replied that he hadn’t thought about it.

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By: raincoaster

raincoaster — Wed, 29 Mar 2006 05:44:25 +0000

Ah, and perhaps you forget that two of the three holiest sites in Islam are in Saudi Arabia. It is from that, rather than from riches, that Saudi Arabia’s true influence on Islam comes. Do I have to remind you of everything?

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By: raincoaster

raincoaster — Wed, 29 Mar 2006 05:42:10 +0000

Bashir, in this you are correct:

People love to hang on to preconceptions rather than read the actuals

Facts Bashir. It’s important to look at the facts. And the fact is, the dress code of the devout was never in question in this case.

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