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		<title>By: mystere</title>
		<link>http://www.boris-johnson.com/2005/01/24/general-election-strategies/comment-page-2/#comment-2183</link>
		<dc:creator>mystere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My MP Didn&#039;t vote against I D cards on 21st December !!! Why not ?
He was not alone . Howard Herded the entire conservative herd into abstention poor dears.
Boris Johnson ought to give a month&#039;s salary to the Police Benevolent Society for this ( from all his jobs )
MPs should attend the debate and vote. That</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My MP Didn&#8217;t vote against I D cards on 21st December !!! Why not ?<br />
He was not alone . Howard Herded the entire conservative herd into abstention poor dears.<br />
Boris Johnson ought to give a month&#8217;s salary to the Police Benevolent Society for this ( from all his jobs )<br />
MPs should attend the debate and vote. That</p>
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		<title>By: Spontaneous Monotony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spontaneous Monotony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Missing the point&lt;/strong&gt;

If, as expected, the General Election is called in May, I won&#039;t be entitled to vote. But even I can see that, if they don&#039;t improve dramatically, the Tories are on their way to a monumental gubbing. As irritating and...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Missing the point</strong></p>
<p>If, as expected, the General Election is called in May, I won&#8217;t be entitled to vote. But even I can see that, if they don&#8217;t improve dramatically, the Tories are on their way to a monumental gubbing. As irritating and&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have got to make more of EU sleaze. A good idea would be to demand a freeze of all UK funding to the EU until they publish their accounts. When Blair refuses then you can portray him as part of the corrupt &#039;EU establishment&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have got to make more of EU sleaze. A good idea would be to demand a freeze of all UK funding to the EU until they publish their accounts. When Blair refuses then you can portray him as part of the corrupt &#8216;EU establishment&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two basic goals in a society
1)Reproduction &amp;
2)Progress or increasing comfort/happiness.

I think the focus in recent times has been on progress. Women have worked, communities have been lost and people are ever more dislocated.

Add to this ugly looking surrounds and fiscal insecurity and its no wonder that lots of people are jolly depressed.

Goodness who wouldn&#039;t be?

Honestly, I wish government would have  a go at fixing some of our social problems.

Playing the race card is a tricky thing to do.

I don&#039;t believe that most people generally dislike people from other races but like most people they want to be involved in communities of people who are like them (increasingly difficult).

They are often quite jealous of tight knit ethnic communities.

Yet politically, playing to this understandable instinct is difficult because it smacks of mean spiritedness. No-one likes to imagine that they are hard hearted and a leader that shines a mirror to this instinct may not do well unless they can come at the issue from a common sense perspective that the population can live with.

The push for immigration comes from the top end of town and with their unnatural allience with the liberal progressives it seems unlikely that immigration will halt.

More focus must be on structuring a society where people can reproduce and have communities




Currently, we are in the thows of a social experiment where men and women have

Early societies playing with progress, learning how to
There is absolutely no point getting confused by progressive ethical dilemmas.

The problems that we face
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two basic goals in a society<br />
1)Reproduction &#038;<br />
2)Progress or increasing comfort/happiness.</p>
<p>I think the focus in recent times has been on progress. Women have worked, communities have been lost and people are ever more dislocated.</p>
<p>Add to this ugly looking surrounds and fiscal insecurity and its no wonder that lots of people are jolly depressed.</p>
<p>Goodness who wouldn&#8217;t be?</p>
<p>Honestly, I wish government would have  a go at fixing some of our social problems.</p>
<p>Playing the race card is a tricky thing to do.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that most people generally dislike people from other races but like most people they want to be involved in communities of people who are like them (increasingly difficult).</p>
<p>They are often quite jealous of tight knit ethnic communities.</p>
<p>Yet politically, playing to this understandable instinct is difficult because it smacks of mean spiritedness. No-one likes to imagine that they are hard hearted and a leader that shines a mirror to this instinct may not do well unless they can come at the issue from a common sense perspective that the population can live with.</p>
<p>The push for immigration comes from the top end of town and with their unnatural allience with the liberal progressives it seems unlikely that immigration will halt.</p>
<p>More focus must be on structuring a society where people can reproduce and have communities</p>
<p>Currently, we are in the thows of a social experiment where men and women have</p>
<p>Early societies playing with progress, learning how to<br />
There is absolutely no point getting confused by progressive ethical dilemmas.</p>
<p>The problems that we face</p>
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		<title>By: JustinF</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustinF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry , left out Georgia, and Lithuania. Georgia has the lowest - 12%.  Key thing from reading about this is that it&#039;s not just the rate at which it&#039;s set - it&#039;s the closing of all loopholes,and exemptions wherein the efficiency benefits arise. The aim is that you should be able to do your tax return on the back of a postcard, in terms of the simplicity of it.

Czech Republic and Poland are seriously looking into it. Spain might well do it too, as one-fifth of the Spanish economy is in the black untaxed economy. Advocates of flat tax say that simplification generated by flat taxes can actually increase overall tax revenue.  Corporate tax loopholes are closed as well - no exceptions , and no army of tax consultants and lawyers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry , left out Georgia, and Lithuania. Georgia has the lowest &#8211; 12%.  Key thing from reading about this is that it&#8217;s not just the rate at which it&#8217;s set &#8211; it&#8217;s the closing of all loopholes,and exemptions wherein the efficiency benefits arise. The aim is that you should be able to do your tax return on the back of a postcard, in terms of the simplicity of it.</p>
<p>Czech Republic and Poland are seriously looking into it. Spain might well do it too, as one-fifth of the Spanish economy is in the black untaxed economy. Advocates of flat tax say that simplification generated by flat taxes can actually increase overall tax revenue.  Corporate tax loopholes are closed as well &#8211; no exceptions , and no army of tax consultants and lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>flat tax rates, and implementation dates:

Estonia: 26% since mid-1990s
Latvia: 25% since mid-1990s
Russia: 13% , Jan 1st 2001
Ukraine: 13% , 2003
Slovakia: 19% , 2004
Romania: 16%, 2005

good article here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalpolitician.com/articles.asp?ID=284&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalpolitician.com/articles.asp?ID=284&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.globalpolitician.com/articles.asp?ID=284&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Yes, I know the arguments for and against it, but it IS radical , and the Tories can gather the evidence on it&#039;s effects from those Eastern European governments. Admittedly, those eastern European countries are starting from very low bases, so their GDP growth rates might be illusory ,and may well bed down once their economies mature.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>flat tax rates, and implementation dates:</p>
<p>Estonia: 26% since mid-1990s<br />
Latvia: 25% since mid-1990s<br />
Russia: 13% , Jan 1st 2001<br />
Ukraine: 13% , 2003<br />
Slovakia: 19% , 2004<br />
Romania: 16%, 2005</p>
<p>good article here:<br />
<a href="http://www.globalpolitician.com/articles.asp?ID=284" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.globalpolitician.com/articles.asp?ID=284" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalpolitician.com/articles.asp?ID=284</a></p>
<p>Yes, I know the arguments for and against it, but it IS radical , and the Tories can gather the evidence on it&#8217;s effects from those Eastern European governments. Admittedly, those eastern European countries are starting from very low bases, so their GDP growth rates might be illusory ,and may well bed down once their economies mature.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Gamon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Gamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin - flat tax? Eastern Europe? Which countries are we talking about here?

I&#039;m impressed by the astonishing growth rates. Just don&#039;t quite buy the idea of everybody paying 20%.

Oh. Unless you&#039;re suggesting we all go up to 40%?

(Ouch)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin &#8211; flat tax? Eastern Europe? Which countries are we talking about here?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m impressed by the astonishing growth rates. Just don&#8217;t quite buy the idea of everybody paying 20%.</p>
<p>Oh. Unless you&#8217;re suggesting we all go up to 40%?</p>
<p>(Ouch)</p>
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		<title>By: Justin F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can&#039;t believe the Tories are doing this - immigration is such a big NON ISSUE with folks.

You have to do something serious radical - something that really gets people&#039;s attention.

FLAT TAX!!  No reliefs, no highly complicated labrynthine Inland Revenue rules, no industry of tax consultants/lawyers.  How many billions would be saved in efficiencies? How much money would suddenly be liberated in the economy?

They&#039;ve done flat tax in Eastern Europe with astonishing growth rates as a result. Do something radical Tories and wake me up out of my cant-tell-the-difference haze...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t believe the Tories are doing this &#8211; immigration is such a big NON ISSUE with folks.</p>
<p>You have to do something serious radical &#8211; something that really gets people&#8217;s attention.</p>
<p>FLAT TAX!!  No reliefs, no highly complicated labrynthine Inland Revenue rules, no industry of tax consultants/lawyers.  How many billions would be saved in efficiencies? How much money would suddenly be liberated in the economy?</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve done flat tax in Eastern Europe with astonishing growth rates as a result. Do something radical Tories and wake me up out of my cant-tell-the-difference haze&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Gamon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Gamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I be postin&#039; da lichrachure wi&#039; pleasure, mon.  Gr8 of u to ask...

Sheesh. I can&#039;t keep &#039;dis up... I&#039;m a predictive text kind of fellah...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I be postin&#8217; da lichrachure wi&#8217; pleasure, mon.  Gr8 of u to ask&#8230;</p>
<p>Sheesh. I can&#8217;t keep &#8216;dis up&#8230; I&#8217;m a predictive text kind of fellah&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: melissa</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dat does mean cool - u haf 2 learn da slan&#039;

just to B Johnson c/o House of Commons, London SW1A 0AA wd be gr8

c u l8er
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dat does mean cool &#8211; u haf 2 learn da slan&#8217;</p>
<p>just to B Johnson c/o House of Commons, London SW1A 0AA wd be gr8</p>
<p>c u l8er</p>
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