Comments on: Google Scholar http://www.boris-johnson.com/2004/11/19/google-scholar/ Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:22:12 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Eva http://www.boris-johnson.com/2004/11/19/google-scholar/comment-page-1/#comment-1259 Eva Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:13:15 +0000 http://80.82.117.242/?p=84#comment-1259 OOO! Thanks for that, just in time for my Computer Science Assignment write up! OOO! Thanks for that, just in time for my Computer Science Assignment write up!

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]]> By: Phil http://www.boris-johnson.com/2004/11/19/google-scholar/comment-page-1/#comment-1258 Phil Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:48:21 +0000 http://80.82.117.242/?p=84#comment-1258 John: It's wrong to assume that published academic research is taxpayer funded, because, at least in my field, much of it is funded by industry. Also, the publishing houses are not owned or operated by the government. The system is set up to allow academics to publish without having to worry about the cost. If academics had to pay, the result would be that rich universities would be able to publish more papers than poor ones. Where research funding is hard to come by, publication would be impossible, and where research is funded by government or the EU, the taxpayers would end up paying the publication costs. As it stands, you only pay a small share of the publication costs for the paper that you want to read. John: It’s wrong to assume that published academic research is taxpayer funded, because, at least in my field, much of it is funded by industry. Also, the publishing houses are not owned or operated by the government. The system is set up to allow academics to publish without having to worry about the cost. If academics had to pay, the result would be that rich universities would be able to publish more papers than poor ones. Where research funding is hard to come by, publication would be impossible, and where research is funded by government or the EU, the taxpayers would end up paying the publication costs. As it stands, you only pay a small share of the publication costs for the paper that you want to read.

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]]> By: hugh macleod http://www.boris-johnson.com/2004/11/19/google-scholar/comment-page-1/#comment-1257 hugh macleod Sat, 20 Nov 2004 17:58:00 +0000 http://80.82.117.242/?p=84#comment-1257 Boris, Jeff Jarvis' Buzmachine is probbaly one of the top ten most influential blogs on the planet. And in my less-than-humble opinion, probably one of the most important. You should be well pleased ;-) Boris, Jeff Jarvis’ Buzmachine is probbaly one of the top ten most influential blogs on the planet. And in my less-than-humble opinion, probably one of the most important.

You should be well pleased ;-)

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]]> By: Nick http://www.boris-johnson.com/2004/11/19/google-scholar/comment-page-1/#comment-1256 Nick Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:02:50 +0000 http://80.82.117.242/?p=84#comment-1256 At the rate Boris here is bloging he's becoming a right example of discourse - in the Foucault sense of course. At the rate Boris here is bloging he’s becoming a right example of discourse – in the Foucault sense of course.

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]]> By: Lori http://www.boris-johnson.com/2004/11/19/google-scholar/comment-page-1/#comment-1255 Lori Sat, 20 Nov 2004 00:05:10 +0000 http://80.82.117.242/?p=84#comment-1255 Google's image search engine, on the other hand, seems to have been mostly broken for about a month. Altavista has a good one, though, if anyone mourns the Google one the way I have. Google’s image search engine, on the other hand, seems to have been mostly broken for about a month.

Altavista has a good one, though, if anyone mourns the Google one the way I have.

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]]> By: Eyeball http://www.boris-johnson.com/2004/11/19/google-scholar/comment-page-1/#comment-1254 Eyeball Sat, 20 Nov 2004 00:02:43 +0000 http://80.82.117.242/?p=84#comment-1254 The words "Karate Chimp" make a good Google search. The words “Karate Chimp” make a good Google search.

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]]> By: John http://www.boris-johnson.com/2004/11/19/google-scholar/comment-page-1/#comment-1253 John Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:42:29 +0000 http://80.82.117.242/?p=84#comment-1253 But will you ever see the full text? Google Scholar appears to be an extension of their web crawling technology applied to online scholarly literature. But the online publisher may only publish the abstract and limit full access to paying subscribers. Shouldn't the full text of taxpayer-funded research be available to taxpayers? My understanding of The Guardian article (Government 'obstructs science access') <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,1345865,00.html" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,1345865,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,1345865,00.html</a></a> (sorry, couldn't find an online telegraph quote) suggests the Government is in favour of severely limiting the usefulness of search engines such as Google Scholar. Sorry, but your new toy appears broken on delivery. :-( But will you ever see the full text?

Google Scholar appears to be an extension of their web crawling technology applied to online scholarly literature. But the online publisher may only publish the abstract and limit full access to paying subscribers.

Shouldn’t the full text of taxpayer-funded research be available to taxpayers?

My understanding of The Guardian article (Government ‘obstructs science access’)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,1345865,00.html
(sorry, couldn’t find an online telegraph quote)
suggests the Government is in favour of severely limiting the usefulness of search engines such as Google Scholar.

Sorry, but your new toy appears broken on delivery.
:-(

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]]> By: Amy http://www.boris-johnson.com/2004/11/19/google-scholar/comment-page-1/#comment-1252 Amy Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:15:20 +0000 http://80.82.117.242/?p=84#comment-1252 Ed - Buzzmachine is a pretty influential blog. It's author, Jeff Jarvis, is quoted in the mainstream media, and has recently had a run of interviews on radio and CNN (<a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2004_11_18.html#008502)." rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2004_11_18.html#008502)." rel="nofollow">http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2004_11_18.html#008502).</a></a> He seems to think outside the box, and certainly "gets" the power of the internet. Ed – Buzzmachine is a pretty influential blog. It’s author, Jeff Jarvis, is quoted in the mainstream media, and has recently had a run of interviews on radio and CNN (http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2004_11_18.html#008502). He seems to think outside the box, and certainly “gets” the power of the internet.

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]]> By: Amy http://www.boris-johnson.com/2004/11/19/google-scholar/comment-page-1/#comment-1251 Amy Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:35:25 +0000 http://80.82.117.242/?p=84#comment-1251 Boris, I got you a link on Buzzmachine: <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2004_11_19.html#008514" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2004_11_19.html#008514" rel="nofollow">http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2004_11_19.html#008514</a></a> [Ed: Good one Amy, I hadn't heard of Buzzmachine!] Boris, I got you a link on Buzzmachine:
http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2004_11_19.html#008514
[Ed: Good one Amy, I hadn't heard of Buzzmachine!]

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]]> By: Amy http://www.boris-johnson.com/2004/11/19/google-scholar/comment-page-1/#comment-1250 Amy Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:03:06 +0000 http://80.82.117.242/?p=84#comment-1250 Hey Boris, Good to see you blogging about some more general issues. Thanks. Blogs are an opportunity for people to find each other and converse, let's do that, and let's LINK, as part of a conversation. I know you're still extremely busy Boris, but maybe now you're not in the shadow cabinet you'll be able to focus more on e-democracy. Maybe you can build up an admired online presence, and become the new Tory E-Democracy Tsar. Internet use is a brilliant way for the Tory party to move up-to-date and help look electable again. By the way, "Google doesn't plan to charge for the service nor use the feature to deliver text-based ads - the primary source of its profits. "Google has benefited a lot from scholarly research, so this is one way we are giving back to the scholarly community," said Anurag Acharya, a Google engineer". (From <a href="http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/TechNews/Internet/2004/11/18/719492-ap.html)" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/TechNews/Internet/2004/11/18/719492-ap.html)" rel="nofollow">http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/TechNews/Internet/2004/11/18/719492-ap.html)</a></a> Hey Boris, Good to see you blogging about some more general issues. Thanks. Blogs are an opportunity for people to find each other and converse, let’s do that, and let’s LINK, as part of a conversation.

I know you’re still extremely busy Boris, but maybe now you’re not in the shadow cabinet you’ll be able to focus more on e-democracy. Maybe you can build up an admired online presence, and become the new Tory E-Democracy Tsar. Internet use is a brilliant way for the Tory party to move up-to-date and help look electable again.

By the way, “Google doesn’t plan to charge for the service nor use the feature to deliver text-based ads – the primary source of its profits. “Google has benefited a lot from scholarly research, so this is one way we are giving back to the scholarly community,” said Anurag Acharya, a Google engineer”. (From http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/TechNews/Internet/2004/11/18/719492-ap.html)

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